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Yo. This aint Joshua, it's Hearn. Joshua just said (or yesterday) if there is 100 mil out there he's even willing to take 50 - 60 mil and they can take the rest. This fight can happen next. Joshua aint talkin shit like that to Sky Sports when its BS. Hearn and whoevers on Wilder's reps are holding this up trying to divide their portion of the fighters money.


Shameful.


Wilder and Joshua need to pull the Manny Floyd and meet somewhere. Compare notes. Remember, Floyd and manny had to sit in a hotel for a few hours to clear some air to get their fight on track.



Hearn will never let that happen.


Im also not sure AJ and Wilder can be civil enough in person. Manny and Floyd are of a different stripe. Wilder and AJ are young hot headed idiots by comparison.



Times like this the sport needs some sort of arbitration system.


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Yo. This aint Joshua, it's Hearn. Joshua just said (or yesterday) if there is 100 mil out there he's even willing to take 50 - 60 mil and they can take the rest. This fight can happen next. Joshua aint talkin shit like that to Sky Sports when its BS. Hearn and whoevers on Wilder's reps are holding this up trying to divide their portion of the fighters money.


Shameful.


Wilder and Joshua need to pull the Manny Floyd and meet somewhere. Compare notes. Remember, Floyd and manny had to sit in a hotel for a few hours to clear some air to get their fight on track.



Hearn will never let that happen.


Im also not sure AJ and Wilder can be civil enough in person. Manny and Floyd are of a different stripe. Wilder and AJ are young hot headed idiots by comparison.



Times like this the sport needs some sort of arbitration system.


They just need muthafuckas to act more like :pimp: instead of brutes.

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Part of me really wants wilder to take this shitty deal offered just to see what kind of excuse hearn would come up with then.


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Yo. This aint Joshua, it's Hearn. Joshua just said (or yesterday) if there is 100 mil out there he's even willing to take 50 - 60 mil and they can take the rest. This fight can happen next. Joshua aint talkin shit like that to Sky Sports when its BS. Hearn and whoevers on Wilder's reps are holding this up trying to divide their portion of the fighters money.


Shameful.


Wilder and Joshua need to pull the Manny Floyd and meet somewhere. Compare notes. Remember, Floyd and manny had to sit in a hotel for a few hours to clear some air to get their fight on track.



Hearn will never let that happen.


Im also not sure AJ and Wilder can be civil enough in person. Manny and Floyd are of a different stripe. Wilder and AJ are young hot headed idiots by comparison.


When I was team AJ I wouldnt even have cosigned that. I want Wilder paid. But I heard AJ said he wants 60-40, and if there is 100 mil in the pot, he wants a 60 and "they" can get the rest. The maths there points to 30 mil if you figure 10 is gonna go towards other middle parties. That is fair. And its more than twice the bullshit offer AJ's side offered in a flat rate.

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Yo. This aint Joshua, it's Hearn. Joshua just said (or yesterday) if there is 100 mil out there he's even willing to take 50 - 60 mil and they can take the rest. This fight can happen next. Joshua aint talkin shit like that to Sky Sports when its BS. Hearn and whoevers on Wilder's reps are holding this up trying to divide their portion of the fighters money.


Shameful.


Wilder and Joshua need to pull the Manny Floyd and meet somewhere. Compare notes. Remember, Floyd and manny had to sit in a hotel for a few hours to clear some air to get their fight on track.



Hearn will never let that happen.


Im also not sure AJ and Wilder can be civil enough in person. Manny and Floyd are of a different stripe. Wilder and AJ are young hot headed idiots by comparison.


When I was team AJ I wouldnt even have cosigned that. I want Wilder paid.


As do I, but we all know Hearn don't want this, and Wilder taking the deal would just be pissing in his cornflakes.


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Essentially they are lowballing on the idea that the fight wont make over 100 mil, and Wilders side is saying, naw this fight is gonna make 100+ mil, how you expect us to take 15%??? And AJ side is trying to tell them its not gonna make that, which makes no sense. That's what AJs words were implying. So it seems to me like this is more a battle of who is in control of the purse and the shell out. This fuckin fight is gonna make 200 mil. I dont know why they think its only gonna make 100.

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Yea Hearn wants to draw it out and get Joshua fighting the other less dangerous fights where he cant 80/20 the shit out of the fighters.

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Yea Hearn wants to draw it out and get Joshua fighting the other less dangerous fights where he cant 80/20 the shit out of the fighters.



MEanwhile praying Wilder loses in the meantime. He must have had a heart attack watching the 8th rnd of WIlder-Ortiz thinking his boy was gonna get out of this scott free.


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Shit that pisses me off is Wilder did AJ dirty work. Ortiz was his mandatory. Wilder was gonna fight a roided up guy that arguably coud beat Joshua but Joshua ducked him and now trying to A side Wilder. Its bullshit

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Shit that pisses me off is Wilder did AJ dirty work. Ortiz was his mandatory. Wilder was gonna fight a roided up guy that arguably coud beat Joshua but Joshua ducked him and now trying to A side Wilder. Its bullshit



AJ is A-side, I'm sorry. Every fights got an A-side and a B-side. Floyd was A side, Manny B side. AJ is the A side, but that don't he he gotta be unreasonable, which he currently is acting like.


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Wilder said he’d give Joshua 90/10 spilt, just reverse those numbers in the rematch after he knocks Joshua out :cool: :boxer: but of course Al wouldn’t let him fight for 10. Wilder acknowledges Joshua is the A-side and he will take much less to make the fight. Povetkin tryig to slide in there, he was featured on the undercard. I wouldn’t be surprised if they try and make that


So he's asking for 50/50 lol


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Think people are overestimating how much this fight will generate. May Pac it's not. According to Hearn the flat fee offer equates to between 30-35% and is double what Parker got, and if he wins he gets double in the rematch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8OZeTxJQ7k

Does anyone know how much AJ Klit generated?


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Think people are overestimating how much this fight will generate. May Pac it's not. According to Hearn the flat fee offer equates to between 30-35% and is double what Parker got, and if he wins he gets double in the rematch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8OZeTxJQ7k

Does anyone know how much AJ Klit generated?


Parker got 33%.


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Think people are overestimating how much this fight will generate. May Pac it's not. According to Hearn the flat fee offer equates to between 30-35% and is double what Parker got, and if he wins he gets double in the rematch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8OZeTxJQ7k

Does anyone know how much AJ Klit generated?


Parker got 33%.


:lol: Double! Yeah, that some math right there! :lol: No wonder these mfers wont go along with Hearns nonsense.

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Think people are overestimating how much this fight will generate. May Pac it's not. According to Hearn the flat fee offer equates to between 30-35% and is double what Parker got, and if he wins he gets double in the rematch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8OZeTxJQ7k

Does anyone know how much AJ Klit generated?


Parker got 33%.


:lol: Double! Yeah, that some math right there! :lol: No wonder these mfers wont go along with Hearns nonsense.


Must be that British Math, LMAO/


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:lol: Yeaa....sign on the line 15 = 35% :lol: theres only 50 mil to be made in this fight :kopfpatsch: :lol:

Alright Chris, if thats the case, and the flat rate equates to about 35%, then why cant they just give him 35% instead of a flat rate? That way when it breaks 100 mil, Wilder can get adequately compensated for the extra profit generated?

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How dare you make a logical argument???


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:lol: Like....Why tow their line??? Be a Brit and rep your fighter. but dont rep the crooked brit promoter :lol:

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Aye. If they wanted tom play harball with Wilder, they should not have given parker 33%. That just gives Wilder a very public jumping off point. Anything less is easlily seen as Hern not being serious about the fight.


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Ok after some quick research seems Aj Klitschko split around $30 million purse, so the number offered to Wilders not too far off saying it generates similar figures. I agree Hearn should just give the % to get this done.


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Everyone wants the fight. The when is the difference. wilder wants it now. hearn wants it later. If AJ is towing his promoters line....he doesnt want it now either. Percentage solves it all. 65/35.

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Everyone wants the fight. The when is the difference. wilder wants it now. hearn wants it later. If AJ is towing his promoters line....he doesnt want it now either. Percentage solves it all. 65/35.



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so Hearn is positively not backing off the 12.5 mil offer, claiming this is a 40 mil fight which equals 31 or 32%. and Hearn has overpaid Joshuas last 5 opponents so he isnt doing so with Wilder.


A. if a debate exists as to how much the fight generates, some say 50 mil some say 100 mil, Hearn says 40, doesnt a simple percentage solve everyones issue?? if the 100 mil side is right, Wilder deserves more than 12. if Hearn is right, Wilder deserves 12. Percentage covers all issues. Whatever Wilders previous career high pay is, is IRRELEVANT.


B. if Hearn has had a great willingness to overpay everyone else, why all of a sudden take a hard stance when it comes to making one of the most important HW fights ever??


C. BECAUSE THEY DONT WANT THE FIGHT.

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so Hearn is positively not backing off the 12.5 mil offer, claiming this is a 40 mil fight which equals 31 or 32%. and Hearn has overpaid Joshuas last 5 opponents so he isnt doing so with Wilder.


A. if a debate exists as to how much the fight generates, some say 50 mil some say 100 mil, Hearn says 40, doesnt a simple percentage solve everyones issue?? if the 100 mil side is right, Wilder deserves more than 12. if Hearn is right, Wilder deserves 12. Percentage covers all issues. Whatever Wilders previous career high pay is, is IRRELEVANT.


B. if Hearn has had a great willingness to overpay everyone else, why all of a sudden take a hard stance when it comes to making one of the most important HW fights ever??


C. BECAUSE THEY DONT WANT THE FIGHT.


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I have repeated the percentage mantra for a while. Solves fucking everything. It's only an issue if you are trying to mislead everyone involved about the true percentage and want to make away with a lot more than you should. Hearn is fucking this fight up.

Joshua deserves blame for letting his promoter do it, but thats nothing new to a fighter...loyalty to a promoter. It doesnt amount to ducking, but it does fucking suck on his part. I heard Joshua say it in an interview, I saw his lips move, he said if there is 100 mil there, just give him 60-70 mil and they can have the rest. Thats between 70-30 and 60-40.

So Hearn is just out to snake the situation.

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