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Im with Austin, that was some massive fucked up shit. As a whole, the officiating this year has been BRUTAL


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Im with Austin, that was some massive fucked up shit. As a whole, the officiating this year has been BRUTAL


officiating is in crisis mode right now. and it started with the Rams-Saints game and has snowballed ever since. Refs are just guessing on alot of calls instead of calling what they see. And as bad of a blown missed call as the PI was, Patricia was 100% correct to not challenge cause it wouldve been pointless. Even the Dallas Jets game where Dallas got called for a pick play flag on a critical td. you see that play 100x and 50x they'll let it go and 50x they'll flag it. wtf is the rule on that?? nobody knows. then they practically send Dallas all the way down field with another 50-50 PI and 2 more horrendous PI calls on the Jets. but no PI on Golden Tate vs NE and no PI on Marvin Jones vs GB when they get completely mugged.


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if your reaction to last night is anything short of outrage then you deserve no respect on the matter. Tony fucking Dungy went on social media to express outrage for crying out loud. i didnt even know he had social media. Seahawks/Steelers SB, SF/Seahawks nfc title game, Rams/Saints nfc title game, GB/Seahawks replacement refs game, and last nights game, all in the same boat of utter incompetence and flagrant flat out cheating.

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it all starts with replay and the challenging system. its gotta go.


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They need a better system no doubt, or at least open up all penalties to challenging.

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They need a better system no doubt, or at least open up all penalties to challenging.



That hasn't worked for the pass interference penalties, it wouldn't work opening up everything to review. no more NY reviewing calls, no more replay. The calls made stand, period, end of story.


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They need a better system no doubt, or at least open up all penalties to challenging.



That hasn't worked for the pass interference penalties, it wouldn't work opening up everything to review. no more NY reviewing calls, no more replay. The calls made stand, period, end of story.


Lol, it's like when we thought that police cameras would force police to act better, and they havent done sweet fuck all.

The refs stand by their decisions because every time they overturn something, they have to admit that they were flat out wrong, human beings hate admitting that they were wrong lol.

The shit is not fixable without utterly destroying game flow. I'd be willing to sacrifice game flow to have shit called perfectly to be honest. That first hands to the face was borderline right at the end of the clip in the det gb game, but that second one was all shoulder. Shit like that is awful.

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Its ruining what should be the best sport out there.


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the best solution is for the officials to be better, and to be held accountable. take definitive measures to improve performance. courses, simulations, performance based incentives, demotions and promotions based on performance etc. whatever the fuck it takes. those refs from last night should not be working next week. Replay is essential except for PI being revieweable. but the worse and worse these refs get, the more and more they want to expand replay. and the more and more replay gets expanded, the worse the system gets.

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Yup. But I take it that the refs are protected in their deal with the league.

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They need a better system no doubt, or at least open up all penalties to challenging.



That hasn't worked for the pass interference penalties, it wouldn't work opening up everything to review. no more NY reviewing calls, no more replay. The calls made stand, period, end of story.


Lol, it's like when we thought that police cameras would force police to act better, and they havent done sweet fuck all.

The refs stand by their decisions because every time they overturn something, they have to admit that they were flat out wrong, human beings hate admitting that they were wrong lol.

The shit is not fixable without utterly destroying game flow. I'd be willing to sacrifice game flow to have shit called perfectly to be honest. That first hands to the face was borderline right at the end of the clip in the det gb game, but that second one was all shoulder. Shit like that is awful.


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and also as was mentioned during the game, Dean Blandino wasnt perfect, but Al Riveron is a full blown fucking idiot. and he never holds the refs accountable, instead he always spins the situation to protect his refs. Al Riveron is a cancer to the sport.

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the best solution is for the officials to be better, and to be held accountable. take definitive measures to improve performance. courses, simulations, performance based incentives, demotions and promotions based on performance etc. whatever the fuck it takes. those refs from last night should not be working next week. Replay is essentialexcept for PI being revieweable. but the worse and worse these refs get, the more and more they want to expand replay. and the more and more replay gets expanded, the worse the system gets.



I would agree with this, if replay has proven to make things better. It hasn't. They still aren't getting the calls right even when reviewed through the replay system. If that's gonna be the case I would rather go with the smoother gameflow of no challenges, reviews at all.


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they still get an annoying number of calls wrong but really, at this point, the game wouldnt survive without replay. The refs are to deep into relying on it. even simple plays like fumbles, down by contact, and out of bounds would be missed at an alarming rate and those they do get right a majority of the time via replay.

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Im gonna agree to disagree. Replay hasn't done enough to me to justify its existance, and slow down of the game. Unless you go the BB route, who has been pushing for every play to be reviewable, with no limit to the challenges, etc. If the idea is to get all the calls right, why have a set number of challenges coaches can use? Why not have NY review every single play, in every single game, before the next play can be run? That's the only way you are going to get "every call" right.


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They need a better system no doubt, or at least open up all penalties to challenging.



That hasn't worked for the pass interference penalties, it wouldn't work opening up everything to review. no more NY reviewing calls, no more replay. The calls made stand, period, end of story.


Lol, it's like when we thought that police cameras would force police to act better, and they havent done sweet fuck all.

The refs stand by their decisions because every time they overturn something, they have to admit that they were flat out wrong, human beings hate admitting that they were wrong lol.

The shit is not fixable without utterly destroying game flow. I'd be willing to sacrifice game flow to have shit called perfectly to be honest. That first hands to the face was borderline right at the end of the clip in the det gb game, but that second one was all shoulder. Shit like that is awful.


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Where is his hand?

Executive president Troy Vincent, 5x pro bowler, says the first penalty was legit, and the second one was an error. Hands to the face is head and neck. If you dont see his hand up around dudes next at the end of the clip of the first ones, go see your optometrist.

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I think all of the rules are ruining the game.

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They need a better system no doubt, or at least open up all penalties to challenging.



That hasn't worked for the pass interference penalties, it wouldn't work opening up everything to review. no more NY reviewing calls, no more replay. The calls made stand, period, end of story.


Lol, it's like when we thought that police cameras would force police to act better, and they havent done sweet fuck all.

The refs stand by their decisions because every time they overturn something, they have to admit that they were flat out wrong, human beings hate admitting that they were wrong lol.

The shit is not fixable without utterly destroying game flow. I'd be willing to sacrifice game flow to have shit called perfectly to be honest. That first hands to the face was borderline right at the end of the clip in the det gb game, but that second one was all shoulder. Shit like that is awful.


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Where is his hand?

Executive president Troy Vincent, 5x pro bowler, says the first penalty was legit, and the second one was an error. Hands to the face is head and neck. If you dont see his hand up around dudes next at the end of the clip of the first ones, go see your optometrist.

Yeaa, why dont YOU stick to yankin dem yanks lol.


just stop. bad call. of course Troy is gonna protect the brand. thats exactly what you mentioned before. 3 game changing calls/non calls. they owned up to 1. thats par for the nfl. thats not a penalty cause a couple fingers mightve been within the neck area. now if you want to keep investigating, find out if thats the exact play where Bahktiari had a full hand to the face of Flowers. it'll be the funniest shit ever if it is, and you're justifying the call cause of a couple fingers possibly within the area of his neck.

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They need a better system no doubt, or at least open up all penalties to challenging.



That hasn't worked for the pass interference penalties, it wouldn't work opening up everything to review. no more NY reviewing calls, no more replay. The calls made stand, period, end of story.


Lol, it's like when we thought that police cameras would force police to act better, and they havent done sweet fuck all.

The refs stand by their decisions because every time they overturn something, they have to admit that they were flat out wrong, human beings hate admitting that they were wrong lol.

The shit is not fixable without utterly destroying game flow. I'd be willing to sacrifice game flow to have shit called perfectly to be honest. That first hands to the face was borderline right at the end of the clip in the det gb game, but that second one was all shoulder. Shit like that is awful.


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Where is his hand?

Executive president Troy Vincent, 5x pro bowler, says the first penalty was legit, and the second one was an error. Hands to the face is head and neck. If you dont see his hand up around dudes next at the end of the clip of the first ones, go see your optometrist.

Yeaa, why dont YOU stick to yankin dem yanks lol.


just stop. bad call. of course Troy is gonna protect the brand. thats exactly what you mentioned before. 3 game changing calls/non calls. they owned up to 1. thats par for the nfl. thats not a penalty cause a couple fingers mightve been within the neck area. now if you want to keep investigating, find out if thats the exact play where Bahktiari had a full hand to the face of Flowers. it'll be the funniest shit ever if it is, and you're justifying the call cause of a couple fingers possibly within the area of his neck.


Eye doctor fam, go see him. Like I said, one call was egregious, one was borderline.

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whatever. i know football and i know those plays are never called. now you're justifying it cause he had a fist full of shoulder and his hand slid up momentarily near his neck. not even fully on the neck. and your good with that helping decide a game. cool. btw did you find out if that was the same play that Bahktiari had an actual whole hand directly on the face of Flowers?? huh, did you?? did your boy Troy mention that, or the blatantly missed PI on GB?? did he?? i look forward to your non response lol.

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Lost the pitch on the original shit that you lost your mind and insulted me over last night, now you wanna straw man some other shit that I didnt even talk about. Lol.

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