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 Post subject: Re: Investments
 Post Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:31 pm 
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To all my conspiracy theorists out here....

How much fossil fuel do we have left?



Oil is abiotic, IMO. I think 'peak' oil is a bit of a myth.


Think so???? What makes you believe that? Some brief reading and some short though, I tend to agree.



Just some reading and radio listening I did in the early 2000's when more people were talking about it. I haven't done any research or reading on it in quite awhile, but, I kind of lean to that 'theory' more than any other. I don't think we are anywhere close to being out of oil.


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To all my conspiracy theorists out here....

How much fossil fuel do we have left?



Oil is abiotic, IMO. I think 'peak' oil is a bit of a myth.


Think so???? What makes you believe that? Some brief reading and some short though, I tend to agree.



Just some reading and radio listening I did in the early 2000's when more people were talking about it. I haven't done any research or reading on it in quite awhile, but, I kind of lean to that 'theory' more than any other. I don't think we are anywhere close to being out of oil.


Yeah. The whole idea of fossil fuels being a fossil fuel always rubbed me wrong, but I didnt care much about it. In the last hour i've turned the corner and I really dont buy it. I dont think fossil fuels have very much to do with fossils by the accepted understanding passed around today. It's actually lazy science that has taken us to accept that without poking more holes at it.

The implication is that it changes the reality of oil being as non renewable as it has been claimed for some 200 years. If its not really or only a fossil fuel, and doesnt require millions of years to replenish, then this shit is a far bit more renewable, and that we just need to get better at finding it, processing it, and using it.

But I have more reading to do still!

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 Post subject: Re: Investments
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I have pondered that question as well, how much do we have left? Shit, take a drive and there are a shit load of cars that fill up a tank every damn week.

As far as what puts the petrol in the ground, it makes sense to me. All living things, whether dinosaurs or trees, or grass or possums or whatever living thing, is carbon based. So is, I can imagine all that rotting living carbon based life turning to another rear on based goo over long period of time.


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I'm not saying that it doesnt make sense to a degree. What bothers me is there is no attempt by science to try to quantify or recreate any of it in order to prove that its true. In fact it provides the ultimate cop out "uhhh well...this theory takes a gazillion years for the process to complete, so, we cant reasonably do anything to prove it, but trust us, we're scientists". Whats the conversion ratio? How many life forms does it take vs the amount of hydrocarbons that science has estimated we have left? And most of all, if its due to life forms stuck under rocks for millions of years....WHY are hydro carbons so concentrated in some areas and devoid in others? What? Was life prevalent in certain areas, and completely missing in others??

I just think that it makes more sense that the two element that hydrocarbons are made of (Hydrogen and Carbon) were around when the planet was created, and probably a much higher source of it by comparison! And as they work their way from the innards of the planet, they change state and and temperature, while get stuck in pockets underground along the way. When stuck, the pressure from the earth plus the elements plus the rock and you end up with hydrocarbon that also bears the signature of a fossil. In addition I think that's why there have been instances of oil and gas wells replenishing themselves when thought to be empty. With the ever shifting earth under us, you get either new wells, or paths to old ones, and they refill.

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