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Just curious why this guys name is never mentioned. Bernard shows up on all time greats lists... Joe bent him over prison style.... Can't say X was washed because he went on to win big matches after that fight

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Because his resume is on the ass side for an atg...and he barely squeaked by Hop.

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Joe gets about as much respect as he deserves, no more, no less


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Ya man. I mean look at hop. Joe's resume was inferior to Hops when he fought Hop. He got a SD over him, went on to beat a shot Roy, then called it a career and said he did enough. Meanwhile both guys with better resumes went on to fight more, Hop the better for then adding more notables to an already superior resume.

But Joes SD is supposed to put him in special status? FOH Juse, you're better than this :lol:

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Joe was a very good fighter. I don't think people dispute that. But he was never elite. That resume is not elite. His best win was against Kessler, which was a legit win. But that's the best he had.


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I think Joe looks at his resume and says, "undefeated Lacy, legends Hop ans Roy, who has 3 better wins than that."

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I think Joe looks at his resume and says, "undefeated Lacy, legends Hop ans Roy, who has 3 better wins than that."


As he should. No fighter is going to look at is resume and says its trash. That's our job. LOL


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I think Joe looks at his resume and says, "undefeated Lacy, legends Hop ans Roy, who has 3 better wins than that."


As he should. No fighter is going to look at is resume and says its trash. That's our job. LOL


you have to be honest, at least in private, about your work. aint nobody buying that nonsense so why even try and sell it??

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Meh. I would expect nothing less. Nobody wants to tarnish their own legacy, and you know these athletes are a special breed of narcissist. Look at Bron calling himselt King, or Floyd with the TBE shit.


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Meh. I would expect nothing less. Nobody wants to tarnish their own legacy, and you know these athletes are a special breed of narcissist. Look at Bron calling himselt King, or Floyd with the TBE shit.


they have solid reasons. you dont see Rudy Gay or Leo Santa Cruz calling themselves King and TBE. :lol:

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Hahahaha, fair!!


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I think Joe looks at his resume and says, "undefeated Lacy, legends Hop ans Roy, who has 3 better wins than that."

And his win over Kessler as well..... I forgot he ruined Lacy with that drubbing...Also beat Chris Eubank, Prime Omar Shieka and Byron Mitchell.... he's not mentioned because he's from Whales.

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SMW is historically the weakest div. in boxing history...so there's that.

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Juse kind of has a point. His only real close fight was Hop. Everyone got slapped up to death, the Kessler win was dam impressive cause he took his “O” in a huge fight, hurt him to the body.

And the Lacy fight was one of the most vicious beatings ever handed out in a big fight, Lacy was ruined.


So Joe does deserve credit, but I do feel my boy Carl the Cobra Froch would have walked thru the slaps and knocked Joe the fuck out, but that’s just me.


Also maybe cause Joe was coked up during all that lmao


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The Kessler win was impressive. And if you want to rate him among all time SMW, have at it. But overall...meh.


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I would have loved to see him and Ward. Ward likes to pick his shots and hold, Joe likes to slap away and it’s hard to slow that pace and fight him like that, and Ward isn’t a big puncher. That being said I would favor Ward by a slightest degree. Probably just comes down to where they fight at and who would get the hometown decision


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It would have happened, but Joe was the kind of pussy that never wanted to fight A caliber Prime talent.

Whereas Ward, although he retired twice, fought Froch in his Prime, fought Kova in his Prime, and fought Dawson in his prime.

I'd take Ward, it would be a chess match for sure.

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It would have happened, but Joe was the kind of pussy that never wanted to fight A caliber Prime talent.

Whereas Ward, although he retired twice, fought Froch in his Prime, fought Kova in his Prime, and fought Dawson in his prime.

I'd take Ward, it would be a chess match for sure.


dont you have a wedding toast to give?? :pointing-and-laughing:

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Not true Jermz. Lacy was prime and undefeated. Kessler was prime and undefeated.

Sad Chad Dawson was not prime at the time. He had already been defeated and weight drained himself. Froch and Kova were Ward’s best wins, but Kova won that first fight


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Because he sucked is the answer. Who the hell did Kessler or Lacy beat to warrant any credibility? Old as Hopkins and Roy says he's better than Jean Pascal and Kelly Pavlik, what the fuck.


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Not true Jermz. Lacy was prime and undefeated. Kessler was prime and undefeated.

Sad Chad Dawson was not prime at the time. He had already been defeated and weight drained himself. Froch and Kova were Ward’s best wins, but Kova won that first fight


Of course ya hating ass would show up and say this :hearty-laugh: i know you and Andre got some kind of old grudge man.

Lacy was garbage. Dawson was prime. He agreed to the weight. Kessler was prime but in retro spect wasnt an A fighter...much lacy wasnt. Dawson/kova twice/froch beats old hop old rop lacy and kessler

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his best win is Kessler and the lacy Hop and Roy were past it. THE END

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his best win is Kessler and the lacy Hop and Roy were past it. THE END


Lacy was young and undefeated. he was just overrated and not that good as it turns out. Hopkins was past it but still on everyones top 10 P4P list. Joe gets just credit for that win. Roy win means nothing. less than nothing.

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Ok, everyone is in hindsight mode and monday morning QB’ing when it comes to Lacy. He was undefeated and had a belt. They were considered the two best super middleweights and Lacy may have even been the favorite.

But its not iust that he won, Calzaghe tore his ass out the frame. Ward has never beaten a man half to death like that. Sad Chad was not prime obviously Jermz stop it. And you know i never liked that bum and told yall he was a bum a long time ago. But pascal already beat him and he thought he could go down to a weight he hadn’t fought in years and his already chinny ass couldn’t take a punch at the weight and had Ward looking like a big puncher.


Same with Roy. Doesnt mean much but he tore Roy ass out the frame as well. That was a vicious beating. Beat up Kessler in a big fight, cane to the states and bent over Hopkins, had a long championship reign the man deserves his props.


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See you out here right now saying he deserves more props than he should.

Should he get props? For sure!

Should he get more props than Roy? No.

More than Hop? No

More than Ward? NO!

Started his career in 93 and took a whole 13 years to step up in comp. Which is fine....if you have a deep resume to make up, which he simply doesn't. He's not comparable to Roy or Hop. That's certain. but lets even compare him to the man you dont like. Ward started in 2004 and was fighting the likes of Miranda, Bika, AA, and Froch within 5 fuckin years man. And in the end in a short period fought and beat better comp, top to bottom. So hate the man for his style...but you show him the adequate gah damn respect by putting Joe Calslappy where he's supposed to be, under SOG.

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