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Just saw the PBC camp man Ortiz looks ripped
No stomach he's in the best shape he's ever been in by far.....slim and trim but still brolic and no gut
It's crazy to see him looking in shape

This dude is 40 man but he's fresh...only been a pro for 10 yrs so he doesn't have the wear and tear of most 40 yr old athletes
Wilder better watch out Ortiz got some serious skills and power

The Cubans are all highly skilled and always a tough out! I think Wilder knocks him out faster this time....but I'm concerned Ortiz is back on the juice cu the way he looks is way to suspect!!

Wat ya think man?? I want predictions

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Ortiz looks like he's in absurdly good shape! Doesnt always turn out great when a fighter spends all of the time cutting weight than getting himself ready. Hopefully Ortiz worked on nullifying that Wilder bomb.

I dont know how to takes this long to get this motivated to win a big fight. Probably will be Wilders hardest fight. If he doesnt knock Ortiz out, he'll lose.

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It's very Interesting for sure....Ortiz has a great skillset,power and is a southpaw! But I don't think anyone aside from fury will ever take Wilder's punches better in a rematch especially not at 40

Ortiz has the boxing ability and power to hurt Wilder or win a decision....but I just can't see Ortiz coming out the winner that's not a knock on Ortiz,it's just the respect that Wilder has earned

I think this time Wilder will stick the jab more and not be in a holes after 4 RDS like he was last time
Don't think Ortiz will get to brave this time and over commit

Fury is really the only guy with the skillset and size to really bother Wilder....his adjustments and countering make it very rough for Wilder on top of that being taller and having more of a reach than Wilder obviously bothered him

I'd love to see Ortiz against fury even if he loses again to Wilder...

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Ortiz looks like he's in absurdly good shape! Doesnt always turn out great when a fighter spends all of the time cutting weight than getting himself ready. Hopefully Ortiz worked on nullifying that Wilder bomb.

I dont know how to takes this long to get this motivated to win a big fight. Probably will be Wilders hardest fight. If he doesnt knock Ortiz out, he'll lose.


I think that body transformation could be a problem.


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Ortiz looks like he's in absurdly good shape! Doesnt always turn out great when a fighter spends all of the time cutting weight than getting himself ready. Hopefully Ortiz worked on nullifying that Wilder bomb.

I dont know how to takes this long to get this motivated to win a big fight. Probably will be Wilders hardest fight. If he doesnt knock Ortiz out, he'll lose.


I think that body transformation could be a problem.


It might go both ways. If overtraining is real, he might have overtrained to get the body...because he didnt look like that when the fight was signed. Then again, his style doesnt favor that big frame he had either. Dude just needs to not get hit like he did last time...and I cant see how Wilder can beat him. He's the better boxer, he needs to box and not get drawn into the firefight, because Wilder will be looking to decapitate his ass.

But, shit like this makes me like Wilder even tho I dont like him. The balls to run back a fight that he almost lost. Bad bronze boi!

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Ortiz looks like he's in absurdly good shape! Doesnt always turn out great when a fighter spends all of the time cutting weight than getting himself ready. Hopefully Ortiz worked on nullifying that Wilder bomb.

I dont know how to takes this long to get this motivated to win a big fight. Probably will be Wilders hardest fight. If he doesnt knock Ortiz out, he'll lose.


I think that body transformation could be a problem.


It might go both ways. If overtraining is real, he might have overtrained to get the body...because he didnt look like that when the fight was signed. Then again, his style doesnt favor that big frame he had either. Dude just needs to not get hit like he did last time...and I cant see how Wilder can beat him. He's the better boxer, he needs to box and not get drawn into the firefight, because Wilder will be looking to decapitate his ass.

But, shit like this makes me like Wilder even tho I dont like him. The balls to run back a fight that he almost lost. Bad bronze boi!


He got the most balls, I'll give him that.


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Wilder doesn't have balls he's a sucker....he fought Ortiz cuz e thought he was old and never could give him such a great fight like he did
And he fought fury cuz he thought after all the drugs and suicide shit fury was washed up

Wilder never would have signed up to fight the fury coming off a win against wlad....
Dude.i got respect for Wilder dude is a baller for sure
But I just don't buy into the whole Wilder has balls thing

I've been on record here as saying Wilder is the most powerful man ever... nobody his harder with one shot not foreman,not Baer,not Tyson, nobody
Even wilders grazing shots and glancing blows hurt u can just see it

He's heavy handed on a different level than anyone I've ever seen...but he can be outboxed by dudes like fury and ortiz.i think Ortiz being skinny and having less weight will help him

Him being faster and slimmer means he can get in and out quicker and with better effectiveness all night and it's much less of a chance of him getting countered

Or maybe it can work against him and his being skinny will mean he won't be able to take wilders punches like he did last time

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It will be interesting to see what they both weigh in at.


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Wilder looks heavier and Ortiz looks lighter.

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I have been advocating for Wilder to be heavier since the Fury fight. Ortiz looks damn lighter, it will be interesting to compare the weights to the 1st fight.


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Should be rematching Fury

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That's next, already signed I believe


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Moe be trippin. So Mikey Garcia is a warrior , for quitting or packing it in in fights, But Wilder is anpussy, even though he is fighting and challenging the best, and does not quit when hurt like against Ortiz the first time, or when being outboxed like against Fury he kept firing and almost killed him in the last round earning a draw in the process. Crazy.

Wilder has the most balls and heart. And i was his first fan on here, probably me and Aneed. BOMB ZQUAAAAADDD


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Moe be trippin. So Mikey Garcia is a warrior , for quitting or packing it in in fights, But Wilder is anpussy, even though he is fighting and challenging the best, and does not quit when hurt like against Ortiz the first time, or when being outboxed like against Fury he kept firing and almost killed him in the last round earning a draw in the process. Crazy.

Wilder has the most balls and heart. And i was his first fan on here, probably me and Aneed. BOMB ZQUAAAAADDD


Maaaan ignore that ignorant simpleton. You know I've defended Mikey before and have shitted on Wilder. Wilder is a baaaaaad man for taking this fight.

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Ortiz, 236.5, Lookin better than he ever has.
Wilder, 219.

Would be interesting to know what they weigh tomorrow. Love the respect between the fighters, thats how the fight should be!

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In the ring Wilder has showed a lot of balls and heart that's not wat I meant wen I said he was pussy! He took fury wen everyone thought it was a easy fight and he was finished

And wen he fought Ortiz everyone thought he was old and not a threat cuz he wasn't on the PEDs anymore....but in both cases Wilder did enough to beat both men

I have nothing against Wilder,I've been on record saying he's the hardest hitter of all time.... nobody has his 1 punch power in the history of boxing.
But ya gotta admit wen he signed up to fight fury and Ortiz ya was on here complaining

Ya was on here saying that he fought a washed up fury don't make me find the thread :hearty-laugh:
At the time he signed up to fight fury ya all said fury was finished that Wilder took the easy way out

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Wilder wanted fury next fury wanted espn money and wwe... it is what it is. hopefully ruiz ko's joshua again and ruiz and wilder can unify

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Could easily be 3-0 ortiz right now or 2-1.

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Ortiz 5-0

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all it takes is 1 punch... he was so cautious off ortiz countering him he just waiting til ortiz got a lil tired and gave him sleep lol

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Ortiz just got too confident like last time and stayed in Wilders wheel house too long. Stamina wasn't a factor yet. And wilder knew he would. Really good on him.

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Wilder got the eraser man....hardest hitting man to ever lace em up Period! Ortiz and fury can outbox this dude but nobody ain't gonna survive 12 RDS wo getting dropped it just ain't gonna happen

Ortiz should have just kept doing wat he was doing
Should have just stunk out the joint and he would have won a easy decision.its no point in exchanging with Wilder I don't think anyone would win that battle

U can outbox him easy,but exchanging is just foolish and if u do eventually ur gonna get koed

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Ortiz wasnt exchanging and didnt get tired. he just got lackadaisical with his defense for a moment and got caught because of it. also so late in the round and on his way to going up 6-0 he made the grave mistake of circling right into the right hand. he got lazy with his footwork and Wilder maneuvered him right into the right hand.

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