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Jermz you showing how unseasoned you are right now, or really just going hard for Cherrol. VADA has been known as the better choice. When Floyd and Pac were in negotiations, Floyd insisted on VADA, Pac didnt want any and then wanted USADA. Bob and him clamored for USADA. It's the cheaters choice. I just showed you Tim Bradley, clean as a whistle Tim Bradley wanting VADA for Marquez's dirty ass. USADA is probably how Marquez got away with the steroided KO of Manny, if they even had testing.


Son, you just fucked up your whole story. Floyd has never demanded VADA. He demanded USADA. What derailed negotiations was the demand of the cutoff date. You wanna tell me about unseasoned? Your memory is unseasoned as fuck man. You need to get your thoughts together, Ill give you some more time to do it. What story are you going to make up next man?

Like i said man, you're just repeating shit youve heard ... quite lazily...doing no leg work to see whats really poppin with USADA,VADA, and WADA. Read more. Fuck videos, read some shit.


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:boxer: I mixed up my companies, but you failed to address Tim bradley wanting VADA. Is he not credible? Look at what some of the people say, go ahead through the comments.


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I dont need to address a fuckin has been out of the thousands that use USADA. You didnt address a single fuckin thing from all that I wrote. Bout "go through the comments". :kopfpatsch: :lol:

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This is another user, who felt compelled to make a video regarding Errol’s drug testing. Again, i aint smearing, i dont give a fuck. Just FACTS.

This is Errol’s drug testing history, all on tape. Hella discrepancies. See for yourself


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Ice putting up fucking yelp reviews on VADA, LMAO!!!


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I dont need to address a fuckin has been out of the thousands that use USADA. You didnt address a single fuckin thing from all that I wrote. Bout "go through the comments". :kopfpatsch: :lol:



I said my shit first, and yea i posted another video. Why all these dudes making videos about ya boy potentially being dirty??? :eusa_think: :eusa_think: :eusa_think: The videos exposes some of James discrepancies in what he said


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Ice putting up fucking yelp reviews on VADA, LMAO!!!


This is a new low man. He trawling the bottom for crabs.

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Ignore the answer...that answers all ya fuckery, and put up comments from the bogus video. That's the new standard of smearing a muthafucka?

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Ok, i did it myself, here is the link for the USADA athlete testing. Errol WAS NOT tested at all in 2016. When his trainer lied and said he did. These were Errol's biggest KO's. See for yourself. He got ranked by the WBC after this, but refused the clean program and got DROPPED. Your boy is dirty.

https://www.usada.org/testing/results/a ... t-history/


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Ok, i did it myself, here is the link for the USADA athlete testing. Errol WAS NOT tested at all in 2016. When his trainer lied and said he did. These were Errol's biggest KO's. See for yourself. He got ranked by the WBC after this, but refused the clean program and got DROPPED. Your boy is dirty.

https://www.usada.org/testing/results/a ... t-history/


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Ok, i did it myself, here is the link for the USADA athlete testing. Errol WAS NOT tested at all in 2016. When his trainer lied and said he did. These were Errol's biggest KO's. See for yourself. He got ranked by the WBC after this, but refused the clean program and got DROPPED. Your boy is dirty.

https://www.usada.org/testing/results/a ... t-history/


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Yea something now, dumb ass Boston rhode island nigga, say something relevant, intelligent. I dare you. Errol was not tested in 2013, 2014, or 2016. When his trainer said he did. And when he got ranked #3 by the WBC, he chose to DROP OUT. Why? Why are people making these videos? The truth is right there... now say something bitch instead of some stupid ass emoji.


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You know when you can call a fighter dirty? When he pisses dirty. Or at least has the could around him like marquez when he blew up to mega juan with Conte in his corner. Your ignorant ass is just throwing shit against the wall hoping it sticks. We got up in your feels over pink panty danny, so now you wanna try and smear the boxing boogeyman. Ain't nobody buying what you're selling.


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Ice, do you know how a website works? Do you know how a data type is in a database? Do you know how many mistakes can be in that database that you're searching through?

Well, when these muthafuckas sign fights, they dont use the website databases, they use hard fuckin copies with signatures on them. The kind of shit that gets photocopied when you sign it, and stored somewhere. They demand the hard proof to corroborate their words. Thats how a professional would do it. This is why the fight with Mikey is on, and why the other fights in those years were on. And why yuk mouth muthafuckas with not much more than a bus pass makin videos and sharing usada website links instead of havin hard proof...because they aint got access to any.

If you wanna take that as a smoking gun...and believe that a bunch of professionals didnt overlook the real shit, but some asshole with an ass hanging out of his trousers and has just enough for an internet connection...somehow knows better, than more fool you.

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The smoking gun is this supposed super hungry fighter refusing to engage in the same testing the other champions have


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The smoking gun is this supposed super hungry fighter refusing to engage in the same testing the other champions have


You're clowning. He has for 9 years. The professionals havent refuted it. And he signed up for VADA to make the brook fight happen.But by all means, put on the tin foil hat and listen to losers who arent privy to the facts. Enjoy the rabbit hole.

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Memo Heredia interviewed about USADA vs VADA

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"Both boxers are going through blood and urine testing. They're being tested by USADA. Now, there's no bullet proof test in the world, but the toughest tests in the world are made by WADA. WADA is the authority in testing, so really frankly, I don't understand why people are still worrying about Floyd or worrying about Pacquiao," stated world-class Strength & Conditioning Coach Angel Heredia, who shared his thoughts on Mayweather vs. Pacquiao drug testing and discussed the differences and similarities between USADA and VADA testing. Check it out!

BT: Prior to being knocked out by Marquez, Pacquiao was unwilling to participate in random blood and urine testing. Since then, he's had a change of heart and has undergone VADA testing. This is the first time, however, that he'll be participating in the USADA program. Have you been paying attention to some of the recent Twitter chatter about the drug testing that's taking place for Mayweather vs. Pacquiao?

AH: I don't think Floyd or Pacquiao deserves to be accused of anything. Both boxers are going through blood and urine testing. They're being tested by USADA. Now, there's no bullet proof test in the world, but the toughest tests in the world are made by WADA. WADA is the authority in testing, so really frankly, I don't understand why people are still worrying about Floyd or worrying about Pacquiao. Both of them agreed to it, so let them do their thing.

BT: The debate I've seen being brought up is whether USADA or VADA does the better testing. Some people think that because VADA has caught some fighters using banned substances, they do better testing.

AH: You have to understand, VADA is an independent, intermediary contractor. They don't perform any testing and they don't perform any protocol of drug testing. All they do is they contract an independent sample collector and those sample collectors send the urine sample to a WADA [World Anti-Doping Agency] laboratory or accredited labs. In other words, they don't do anything. All they do is just want to take credit. All they want is to collect money. Frankly, all they've been saying to the public, or some of their spokesmen out there, the media who are in favor of them, they keep saying to the public that they do test for several different drugs. In reality, they don't test anything other than what WADA does. What WADA cannot detect, obviously VADA can't. VADA is simply an intermediary. Dr. Margaret [Goodman], I know she has been doing a good job and she's trying to do something good, I understand, but it's another thing to lie. Don't disguise yourself. Don't try to fool the public trying to lie to serve a product. Actually, VADA is not even recognized by WADA because they don't follow WADA protocols. Every one of the WADA protocols, they support with human data by tracking human analysis for years. So you're going to have VADA come in and do whatever they want? That's why WADA doesn't recognize them.

That's just something you have to understand. I don't want to call myself an expert, but I'm very knowledgeable because I worked with the Feds and I assisted USADA and I worked with anti-doping code. I didn't create a testing intermediary agency to make money. I worked to assist USADA for years. I helped USADA and Congress. I turned in plenty of protocols for testing and how to detect certain substances. I provided data of untraceable drugs. So now you're going to tell me that some idiot is going to say...you can talk all you want, but please provide some data. I want to see data. I want to see all the samples that have been collected. I want to see the times of sample testing. I want to see all of that. I asked VADA plenty of times and I asked Dr. Margaret through Twitter, but not one time did she inform me of that information, which I'm entitled to have. She said something about transparency. I don't see any of that. She's never provided me with any data, with the time the urine was collected, the time the urine got to the WADA-approved labs, the time it was actually tested; none of that. I could tell you all my boxers are getting tested every week or every two days, but really, where's the data?

BT: I guess some of the detractors aren't happy with the fact that this isn't true 24/7, 365 random blood and urine testing. Isn't something better than nothing though?

AH: Who's really doing 24/7? I mean, show me! Who is it? Like I said, you're falling into the game about what they're saying, but really, who are they doing? VADA doesn't show any data from their 24/7 testing program. I asked Margaret about the testing results and the data. I mean, anybody can say, "Yeah, he tested negative." Okay, but where are the results? Where is the data? What time did they come? How many times did you test a month? How many times did you test per week? They don't have any data; they didn't want to show me anything, so I guess it has to be subpoenaed. The data should be open to the public upon request. Whether someone pushes one or the other, at the end of the day, it's not up to us. In reality, it doesn't matter whether it's VADA or whether it's USADA. It's up to the boxing commissions and up to the television networks and up to the organizations to say, you know what, there's going to be a world championship fight and the moment you sign the contract, then you are entitled to random testing.

Let me give you an example, Pascal-Kovalev, just because Interbox decided to draw up a contract where testing was only going to be performed right before the fight, after the contract was signed, Pascal could not even ask for random testing anymore because it's not on the contract. Really, frankly, at this point, how can you possibly have a boxer dictate when he's going to get tested and when he's not going to get tested when in Olympic sports, every athlete gets tested randomly without questions asked. You cannot be Usain Bolt or any other athlete in the world and say, "You know what? I'm running the 200 meter today, but you know what? I don't want to be tested today. I want to be tested maybe three weeks after. Let's do the contract." I mean, since when does the boxer have the power to dictate how testing is going to be? Now whether USADA, whether VADA, whether any other organization wants to get involved, yeah, let them be involved, but let them do it right. Let the organizations and let the television networks dictate what's what; not what the boxer wants or what the manager wants. At the end of the day, sometimes, unfortunately, some of the managers only want what is best for their athletes, and we don't want that.

So frankly, this is not about me going against VADA or me going against USADA or favoring any of them. You asked me what's best and I give you my opinion as a federal witness who worked to assist USADA for years. Would I test with an organization who has been testing Olympians or NFL players and other different athletes and is recognized by Congress and is also entitled to federal laws if something happens? Yes. Would I go to VADA, who is a self-made company, has nothing to do with testing, and all they're doing is collecting the money and pretty much just hiring the test collectors and using WADA laboratories to test samples? No. You have to open your eyes to understand. They don't detect anything different between VADA and USADA. USADA detects the same thing because, at the end of the day, WADA labs, they're the ones that test all of the samples. The only difference is USADA, they follow WADA protocols. VADA doesn't and that's why they're not recognized by WADA. VADA has stated publicly that they detect and provide harder drug testing than USADA, but really, frankly, they don't. To me, it's just a disguised way to sell themselves. Obviously those who don't understand testing, they fall for it.

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Wait...so now Errol has been dirty all along?

Come on man...


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Wait...so now Errol has been dirty all along?

Come on man...


No he won today Burowz, look how much time me trolled me into wasting?

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He is suspect. Thats what I will say. Not being part of the WBC clean boxing program that Danny, Thurman and Porter , and Floyd and any WBC fighter partakes in is suspect to me. For a hungry fighter.

He took no tests from USASA or VADA in 2013,14, and 2016 and that is irrefutable as per the USADA website clearly shows. His trainer claimed a 9 year history, but there are gaping holes in that. So when he steamrolled Algieri and Bundu and his latest bum he was not being tested. Interesting stuff. And again, all these videos coming out about Errol. I aint made them shits, the people are speaking on it.


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He is suspect. Thats what I will say. Not being part of the WBC clean boxing program that Danny, Thurman and Porter , and Floyd and any WBC fighter partakes in is suspect to me. For a hungry fighter.

He took no tests from USASA or VADA in 2013,14, and 2016 and that is irrefutable as per the USADA website clearly shows. His trainer claimed a 9 year history, but there are gaping holes in that. So when he steamrolled Algieri and Bundu and his latest bum he was not being tested. Interesting stuff. And again, all these videos coming out about Errol. I aint made them shits, the people are speaking on it.


Stop making up shit to suit your argument. Floyd not only has never been part of the wbc clean boxing program....but he has never taken vada testing. Is Floyd suspect too then? Get off the gas man.

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Floyd’s testing is on there as wel, and it is was more strenuous then Errol’s, with no gaps, but of course they on different levels. Bottom line Errol dont want strenuous testing. He’s allowing fags like porter to hide behind mandatories, cause Soence would have been one if not for his refusal.


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I have no reason to believe that the WBC would actually make Spence the mandatory. He wasnt ranked before, and they only ranked him as a ploy to knock business out of the IBFs mouth to cease up Spence Brook for the IBF belt. Spence dont have to play by no WBC rules, the fighters will have to step up eventually, those fags will sanction it, and then Spence will agree to do the VADA for the fight, and the WBC will do what they do....shut the fuck up and collect their sanctioning fees. The fuck Spence wants to pay sanctioning fees to IBF and WBC while waiting for the fighters to man up? Thats hustlin backwards. Get the fighter first, the sanctioning body wont stop nothin after that.

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I feel you, and I would love to see that. Again, i have no dog in this, i just posted Errol roasting they ass in the other thread. Im not the one making these videos. People feel Spence is suspect. I just find it kinda odd he would choose to drop out of their rankings instead of being clean, and the fact his trainer said they been getting tested 9 years every fight or whatever he said, when right there on the USADA website it shows he was not tested for Algieir, Bundu, and this latest bum. Along with 2013, and 2014.


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I feel you, and I would love to see that. Again, i have no dog in this, i just posted Errol roasting they ass in the other thread. Im not the one making these videos. People feel Spence is suspect. I just find it kinda odd he would choose to drop out of their rankings instead of being clean, and the fact his trainer said they been getting tested 9 years every fight or whatever he said, when right there on the USADA website it shows he was not tested for Algieir, Bundu, and this latest bum. Along with 2013, and 2014.


I heard about it too. Months ago in fact. Thats why I had information on it to drop. I saw this coming back when the WBC ranked Spence and then removed him. That was the first flag that the WBC was playing games, and I knew their next ploy would be them inferring that he's dirty. Victor Conte himself leading the charge here was icing on the cake. Once can speculate that him and USADA are in bed somehow, or they test others much more than they test him, or whatever, but it just doesnt make much sense. And a clear 3 year period of not being tested doesnt add up either. I'd sooner believe that the website information is incomplete.

Some of those same people talkin bout how his titties look for god sakes man. His titties is an indicator of steroid use. :kopfpatsch: Ppl just reaching man. The USADA info is a flag, but its no smoking gun man. And if no other actual fighters bring it up, then i have no cause to believe it to be a real issue.

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Still dont make sense. That would put him right in the mix with Thurman, Danny, and Porter. If you aint dirty whats the problem? You know the other notable welterweights not in that program, Manny pacqauio and lamont Peterson :eusa_think: :lol: cant make that up bro


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