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Terrence gonna smoke him in 6.


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Benavidez is pretty basic. He's rangey, thats it. Everyone that Bud fights is taller than him, this aint new.

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I didnt realize he got 6 inches in height and 3 inch in reach supposedly



Benavidez is a big kid with a good jab. He should work behind it and he can trouble Bud with it. Jose has sparred with all of the top guys and even guys in higher weight divisions. He won't be intimidated at all.


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I didnt realize he got 6 inches in height and 3 inch in reach supposedly



Benavidez is a big kid with a good jab. He should work behind it and he can trouble Bud with it. Jose has sparred with all of the top guys and even guys in higher weight divisions. He won't be intimidated at all.


Right, he'll come forward...and be right there to be hit, hard.

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Benavidez is pretty basic. He's rangey, thats it. Everyone that Bud fights is taller than him, this aint new.



Well, I think with the injuries and him getting shot really stunted his growth. Ideally, he would've had better fights by now, but, it kind of is what it is. When he was coming up, I was really high on him. He was doing some really nice things in there but I really don't know where he's at these days. I didn't think he looked great in the Herrera fight but I still felt like he won. I still think this will be an interesting fight though.


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Benavidez is pretty basic. He's rangey, thats it. Everyone that Bud fights is taller than him, this aint new.



Well, I think with the injuries and him getting shot really stunted his growth. Ideally, he would've had better fights by now, but, it kind of is what it is. When he was coming up, I was really high on him. He was doing some really nice things in there but I really don't know where he's at these days. I didn't think he looked great in the Herrera fight but I still felt like he won. I still think this will be an interesting fight though.


I agree that he was stunted by the bullet. And I dont think he's a bum. I just dont think hes ready for Bud. Too much too fast.

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I didnt realize he got 6 inches in height and 3 inch in reach supposedly



Benavidez is a big kid with a good jab. He should work behind it and he can trouble Bud with it. Jose has sparred with all of the top guys and even guys in higher weight divisions. He won't be intimidated at all.


Right, he'll come forward...and be right there to be hit, hard.



You're talking about him like he's a slouch. I've seen almost all of his fights. :lol:
This is not an easy fight for Bud.


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His problem is hes so square right in front of guys and he tends to put on the earmuffs as his defense. Hes wide open. He fights like a big dude a few weight classes higher, only problem is he is in the welterweight division. His best punch seems to be his left hook to the body, he fires it conventional and also as a southpaw after an attack like mickey ward used to do, but he really has no shot except a lucky hard body punch Terence doesnt see.

I think he gets whipped but probably last the distance or at least the later rounds, just on sheer will and dislike for Crawford, maybe winning a round or two


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His problem is hes so square right in front of guys and he tends to put on the earmuffs as his defense. Hes wide open. He fights like a big dude a few weight classes higher, only problem is he is in the welterweight division. His best punch seems to be his left hook to the body, he fires it conventional and also as a southpaw after an attack like mickey ward used to do, but he really has no shot except a lucky hard body punch Terence doesnt see.

I think he gets whipped but probably last the distance or at least the later rounds, just on sheer will and dislike for Crawford, maybe winning a round or two



I don't disagree with this


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His problem is hes so square right in front of guys and he tends to put on the earmuffs as his defense. Hes wide open. He fights like a big dude a few weight classes higher, only problem is he is in the welterweight division. His best punch seems to be his left hook to the body, he fires it conventional and also as a southpaw after an attack like mickey ward used to do, but he really has no shot except a lucky hard body punch Terence doesnt see.

I think he gets whipped but probably last the distance or at least the later rounds, just on sheer will and dislike for Crawford, maybe winning a round or two



This is a quality post. It's a reasonable assessment.

Ftr, I'm picking Crawford to win in the late rounds. I say round 10.


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Bud hurts this man.


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Bud threw a punch at Benavidez during the weigh in


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Bud in 6. Thats how serious Bud knows his range. He's gonna end him on a right hook.

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Bud in 6. Thats how serious Bud knows his range. He's gonna end him on a right hook.



should be a cracker of a fight. They definitely do not like each other.


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that black top rank girl could get it...hundreds of times.


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that black top rank girl could get it...hundreds of times.

lawd she fine lol

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the size took bud a while to adjust 2. hell of a uppercut

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I underestimated benavidez. He held in there. Still, bud just too good for him. Might be too good for everyone. Would love to see benavidez against other top guys.

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I underestimated benavidez. He held in there. Still, bud just too good for him. Might be too good for everyone. Would love to see benavidez against other top guys.

the size and him being a counter puncher. but vs other more offensive bigger guys at 147 that leg and lack of bug power gonna hurt him

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I think Benavidez has a style to stay close with anybody, but not enough to win on the world class level. He played it really safe for 11 rounds, and when he finally opened up and went for broke (which kudos for at least trying), he came close to getting put to sleep in highlight real fashion. I just imagine him continuing the look from the first 11 rounds for the rest of his career, which will neutralize his opponents best stuff, without showing his own best stuff, which he might not even have anymore with that injured knee.

Crawford is a special dude. None of his stuff was working great, and yet he still won pretty much every round and even closed the show. I've had him as the best fighter in the world for years now, and I still have him there.

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I wont argue with someone having him #1, however let’s remember its easy to look like #1 against the Benavidez’s, Horns and John Molinas of the world.

A major test is long past due


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He definitely needs to be tested at WW. I think he passes all tests except the Sweet Errol test, but he needs a test. Any test. Thurman and Spence still sit ahead of him at 147.

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I wont argue with someone having him #1, however let’s remember its easy to look like #1 against the Benavidez’s, Horns and John Molinas of the world.

A major test is long past due

Agreed. I want to see him destroy Mikey Garcia at the moment.

It's annoying, everybody is going up in weight at different rates, so everybody misses each other.

Lomachenko is at 135 now, but Mikey just went up to 140, just as Crawford went up to 147. Meanwhile at 147, Thurman's only fought twice since 2015, so it's like everything is stopped at this stupid weight when there was better fights for Crawford below.

I guess that leaves Crawford vs. Spence, which I'm certainly down for, but it feels like a Junior Middleweight vs. Lightweight match up. Both should be able to do better.

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Spence-TC gotta happen. TC should beat every other WW out there. I think Spence beats tc, he is bigger, stonger. TC has the faster handspeed.


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I wont argue with someone having him #1, however let’s remember its easy to look like #1 against the Benavidez’s, Horns and John Molinas of the world.

A major test is long past due



A fight against Spence is the only solution. Hopefully it doesn't get dragged out for a year or so.

Both guys are ready to do it now.


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