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Chrisb, I say this as gently as possible without trying to stir up a back n forth...but we're not listening to your reactionery "I hate Wilder" bullshit man. Nobody gets on TV and social media and campaigns for a fight as some machiavellian misdirection tactic. And promoters dont actually meet other promoters to plan said fight as some kind of stall tactic to keep one fighter from another. We dont believe it, and we dont believe you! SO knock off the shit!

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Chrisb, I say this as gently as possible without trying to stir up a back n forth...but we're not listening to your reactionery "I hate Wilder" bullshit man. Nobody gets on TV and social media and campaigns for a fight as some machiavellian misdirection tactic. And promoters dont actually meet other promoters to plan said fight as some kind of stall tactic to keep one fighter from another. We dont believe it, and we dont believe you! SO knock off the shit!


Jerms it’s nothing personal chill man. People dont negotiate fights on social media or TV. Wilders spouting conjecture and pointing the finger before a negotiation has even happened. Hearn made an unrelated offer for Whyte and they’re making up AJ stories on the back of it. We don’t see Wilders promoter making any offer. Hopefully Wilders just trying to drive up interest and it’s not a miss direction but I’ll remain skeptical until the weigh in, no matter how many posts you make defending Wilders strange decisions


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Chrisb, I say this as gently as possible without trying to stir up a back n forth...but we're not listening to your reactionery "I hate Wilder" bullshit man. Nobody gets on TV and social media and campaigns for a fight as some machiavellian misdirection tactic. And promoters dont actually meet other promoters to plan said fight as some kind of stall tactic to keep one fighter from another. We dont believe it, and we dont believe you! SO knock off the shit!


Jerms it’s nothing personal chill man. People dont negotiate fights on social media or TV. Wilders spouting conjecture and pointing the finger before a negotiation has even happened. Hearn made an unrelated offer for Whyte and they’re making up AJ stories on the back of it. We don’t see Wilders promoter making any offer. Hopefully Wilders just trying to drive up interest and it’s not a miss direction but I’ll remain skeptical until the weigh in, no matter how many posts you make defending Wilders strange decisions


IM gonna man just had to aim hard there. His promoter cant make an offer because they know the money is in the UK. If the fight could be done lucratively in vegas, the offer would come from the wilder side. Its all on Hearns side, this is why I dont wwant hearn fucking it up by offering a minimal deal according to economics and business. I minored in that shit in university, you do that shit with a bum fighter, not with a fighter of wilders class, no matter what his drawing power is.

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Somebody sounds like they DONT want the fight to happen. :kopfpatsch:

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Now Hearn is talking up some guy named Jarell Miller. Also Joseph Parker. And Tyson Fury. So Wilder is about 4th on the hit list. :lol:

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Now Hearn is talking up some guy named Jarell Miller. Also Joseph Parker. And Tyson Fury. So Wilder is about 4th on the hit list. :lol:


You know I want this fight, and you know I want Joshua to knock Wilder out.

Hearn may be trying to fuck this fight up, and AJ shouldnt let him. If he does, Ill call him a ducker behind it.

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 Post subject: Re: Wilder-Stiverne II
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Na, Wilder is acting like he wants it but he's really ducking. AJ acting like he's ducking but he really wants Wilder.

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Apparently Wilder is demanding 50/50 for Joshua (15 times ish biggest ever purse) haha


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Lets see some proof of that. Your past biases lead us to believe that youre making it up or read it from shady back alley sources.

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Apparently that’s what he said. https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/d ... ight/84639


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That fight was almost as much of a farce as Floyd-Conor.


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Team Parker says they have given up on a Joshua fight because they want 40/60 and Hearn countered back with 20/80. I feel like 20% is probably going to be the standard rate for any Joshua opponent so we'll see where that leads.

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Team Parker says they have given up on a Joshua fight because they want 40/60 and Hearn countered back with 20/80. I feel like 20% is probably going to be the standard rate for any Joshua opponent so we'll see where that leads.


Parker really has no business asking for 40 percent. I read an article where they were saying they wanted 50-50, and Parker has fought nobody other than Takam and Hughie Fury. 80/20 is about right for him. Thats a good bench though, because if Team Joshua tried to tell Wilder 20% then we know what the BS is. If Parker gets 20%, no reason why Wilder shouldnt get at least high 30s or 40 on the dot.

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Team Parker says they have given up on a Joshua fight because they want 40/60 and Hearn countered back with 20/80. I feel like 20% is probably going to be the standard rate for any Joshua opponent so we'll see where that leads.


Parker really has no business asking for 40 percent. I read an article where they were saying they wanted 50-50, and Parker has fought nobody other than Takam and Hughie Fury. 80/20 is about right for him. Thats a good bench though, because if Team Joshua tried to tell Wilder 20% then we know what the BS is. If Parker gets 20%, no reason why Wilder shouldnt get at least high 30s or 40 on the dot.



EXACTLY. If 20 is the standard rate for a regular Joe like Parker, then Wilder should get 35-40, especially if he beats Whyte in the UK.

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Absolutely. And I envisioned this fucking trash this whole argument with Chrisb, and its why I said WIlder should demand and get 7 mil. Because if he lets Hearn lowball him on the Whyte fight, he'll use that baseline to justify a lowball in the Wilder-Joshua fight "oh well, you only made 3.5 mil with Whyte and you agreed to that, so why should we give you 40%?". Fucking garbage.

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:lol: Parkers team has lowered their split request to 65-35 and want the fight in Spring. If Parker gets 35, Wilder deserves 50.

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Joshua them full of shit... They wannt b side Wilder and fight all the uk fighters while he gets stalled out.... u notice Parker nor Fury nor Wlad ever call out Wilder.... they all want to fight Joshua. Cant wait til Wilder knocks Joshua out

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UK fans always are delusional from Hatton to Froch to Khan and now Joshua... chrisb talking foolishness...

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UK fans always are delusional from Hatton to Froch to Khan and now Joshua... chrisb talking foolishness...


Says the most biased poster in boxing forum history. I’ll admit I’m slightly biased towards my home fighters, but atleast try to be objective. People see your agenda prevents u from recognizing the talents of any non AA boxer, so can’t take u seriously. In fact I don’t even know why I’m responding haha


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UK fans always are delusional from Hatton to Froch to Khan and now Joshua... chrisb talking foolishness...


Says the most biased poster in boxing forum history. I’ll admit I’m slightly biased towards my home fighters, but atleast try to be objective. People see your agenda prevents u from recognizing the talents of any non AA boxer, so can’t take u seriously. In fact I don’t even know why I’m responding haha



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I dont know how Pot is out here yellin at Kettle, Pot done said that Wilder accepted fights with Povetkin and King Kong because he knew that they were drug cheats and wouldnt make it to fight night. Lol. Doesn't get more homer than that.

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I;m loving the heat though, lmao


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I dont know how Pot is out here yellin at Kettle, Pot done said that Wilder accepted fights with Povetkin and King Kong because he knew that they were drug cheats and wouldnt make it to fight night. Lol. Doesn't get more homer than that.


How’s the pimping career coming along, Jermz... you’re not Wilder’s manager are you!? Here we go again haha


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I dont know how Pot is out here yellin at Kettle, Pot done said that Wilder accepted fights with Povetkin and King Kong because he knew that they were drug cheats and wouldnt make it to fight night. Lol. Doesn't get more homer than that.


How’s the pimping career coming along, Jermz... you’re not Wilder’s manager are you!? Here we go again haha


Nice try man :lol: Everyone on this board will tell you that I'm team Joshua. The proof is not hard to come by..

http://www.boxinghideout.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1758&hilit=joshua

You can cheer for Joshua without being a homer :lol: even if you from Blighty.

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