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it is hindsight but hindsight perspective can still breed the overall truth. Lacy wasnt shit.

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Ice always got a hard on for his goofy looking white boxers. :P :P :P

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Especially if they ever mentioned in the same convo as Andre Ward, I'm tellin you him and Andre got beef man :lol: they was out west at the same time and ice aint tellin us the real story. Musta crossed Danny Stuntman Wheeler in the gym somewhere and got his ride taken :lol:


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Joke C lol deserves to be mentioned alongside Ward and a dream fight between them is a pick em. Calzaghe could beat him. You beat a master boxer with volume and pressure, and a coked up Joke C could slap all night!

And he gets props cause HE CAME to America and got the job done. He won in both continents.

Roy or Ward never did that they were too pussy.


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Joke C lol deserves to be mentioned alongside Ward and a dream fight between them is a pick em. Calzaghe could beat him. You beat a master boxer with volume and pressure, and a coked up Joke C could slap all night!

And he gets props cause HE CAME to America and got the job done. He won in both continents.

Roy or Ward never did that they were too pussy.


:hearty-laugh: you aint coming off this hill, Ive had enough of you :lol:

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Joe is below Winky Wright and James Toney to me and Tarver and Glen Johnson beats him as well. His 0 is based on competition only.


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Joe is below Winky Wright and James Toney to me and Tarver and Glen Johnson beats him as well. His 0 is based on competition only.


you got something against white people?? :rofl:

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Joe is below Winky Wright and James Toney to me and Tarver and Glen Johnson beats him as well. His 0 is based on competition only.


you got something against white people?? :rofl:


Okay Joe deserves greatest white boxer in recent history which doesn't say much, does it.


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Joe is below Winky Wright and James Toney to me and Tarver and Glen Johnson beats him as well. His 0 is based on competition only.


you got something against white people?? :rofl:


Okay Joe deserves greatest white boxer in recent history which doesn't say much, does it.


I'll take that as a "yes." :lol:

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Joe is below Winky Wright and James Toney to me and Tarver and Glen Johnson beats him as well. His 0 is based on competition only.


you got something against white people?? :rofl:


Okay Joe deserves greatest white boxer in recent history which doesn't say much, does it.


I'll take that as a "yes." :lol:




He clearly does lol Joe would beat Wright and Johnson IMO, and probably lose or get slept by Toney and Tarver. His “0” is cause he was a great fighter. He alao doesnt have any robberies or controversial decisions like that either.


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Glen would push him though, expose him to a degree in a controversial decision probably, :hearty-laugh: . Johnson would've beat Lacy and Kessler for sure and he beat a younger Roy and Tarver.

The Winky Wright that was robbed in a draw against Taylor after he beat Hopkins twice beats Calzaghe in 06. Winky's the bigger puncher. :hearty-laugh:

Seriously though, look what happened to GGG once he stepped up his competition. Joe fought at the safe weight between Roy and Hopkins and made a career overseas on the bum circuit and capped it off with their names when they got old. :kopfpatsch:


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when and at what weight would Winky have beaten Joe C.?? Winky was worthless above 160. Joe beat Hopkins at 175.

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2006 Joe beat Lacy and Winky beat JT 3 months later, coming off his wins over Tito and Mosley. Winky was ranked top 3 or 5 around the time and couldn't get the Floyd and Oscar fights he wanted so he moved up in weight.


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Joe preceded to fight blown-up middleweights Sakic Biko and Peter Manfredo while Wright fought Ike Quartey and Hopkins.


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Joe preceded to fight blown-up middleweights Sakic Biko and Peter Manfredo while Wright fought Ike Quartey and Hopkins.


so if Joe-Winky happened, Winky wouldve been a blown up SMW. and lose. so why bring that up??

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and i love Winky Wright. i think he's a HOFer. never cared for or about Joe C. but saying Winky beats him is ridiculous. way to small and even if we're talking even terms it'll be a tough stylistic match up for Winky, same as it was for the far superior Hopkins.

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and i love Winky Wright. i think he's a HOFer. never cared for or about Joe C. but saying Winky beats him is ridiculous. way to small and even if we're talking even terms it'll be a tough stylistic match up for Winky, same as it was for the far superior Hopkins.




Difference is Winky would've been 34 and at his peak instead of 43 years old like Hopkins was. B-hop was a light heavyweight when Winky fought him and he held his own. Joe wasn't a big super middleweight either. Looking at how Winky faired against JT and Hopkins and how he beat Trinidad worse than ever, I like his style against Joe. Tight defense, steady jab, accurate southpaw. Career wise better wins also.


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Dam this fool is in denial like a MF. Winky got absolutely owned by Hopkins. Winky lost to Fernando and had like 5 losses or some shit. And stylistically he would be in his little shell catching slaps all night you know nothing about Boxing if you think he could ever beat him.


Johnson also had like +10 losses. These guys aint beating Calzaghe put some respect on his name. He retired undefeated like a G. Hopkins went on to win another title, he would always lose to Calzaghe even if he was young and prime. Hopkins always had problems with speed and activity and Calzaghe was bigger.

You act like Joe was young when he beat Roy and Hop too, he was at least 35 or 36 right.


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43 year old Hopkins >>> Winky at any point in his career. and yea Hopkins beat Winky rather easily. come to think of it, that was some weird ass match making. who the fuck ever asked for that fight?? :lol:

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To say Winky is better than Calzaghe historically is one thing (wrong, but not crazy), but to say he'd beat Joe is absolute madness. Like it's one of the worst match ups for Winky even if they were the same weight, but he's moving up to boot.

I think Joe is underrated. His resume isn't great, obviously, but it's better than its reputation. And Joe lost very few rounds his entire career. Is he an all time great? No, but he's in the tier just below.

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I think Joe is underrated. His resume isn't great, obviously, but it's better than its reputation. And Joe lost very few rounds his entire career. Is he an all time great? No, but he's in the tier just below.


yea i agree with this. and I also rank Winky a bit higher than Joe as well.

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joe was getting knocked down early in his career struggling with old Eubanks and Reid
both glenn johnson Toney and Froch wanted him he not getting props for beating washed dup dudes. He is Stevvek Ottke and Darius M part 3

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Absolutely. No great win on his resume. Who the hell is Kessler and Lacy? They weren't shit.


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He missed major fights with Froch and Ward. Retired after beating a completely shot RJJ. And still got knocked on his ass in that fight. Very good fighter, but walked away with more to prove.


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First of all, weird that Geo would show up just to comment on a Joe Calzaghe thread lol anyway, he left on his terms, good for him.

He had more than one signature win, he had about 3 or 4. Prime Lacy, which was a hellacious beating, Lacy was never the same. Clear great win over prime undefeated Kessler, great win over a very good Hopkins who promised to never let that happen lol and beat Roy half to death. Came to their country to do it. On top of a bunch of Sakios, and Eubanks and other fighters. Great career.

Winky’s best wins are past-prime welterweights Mosley and Tito who had already been owned.

Winky not on Joe’s level, and neither is Glencoffe johnson. Only some racist old fools like RJ and Aneed would think that :lol: :kopfpatsch:


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